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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:51:47 +0100, "Uno Hoo!"
<kev@dropthisbigfoot.com> wrote:

>
>"M. J. Powell" <mike@DELETE.THIS.pickmere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:D6CnFnF8ivEDFwlo@pickmere.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <deuovc$nul$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Uno Hoo!
>> <kev@dropthisbigfoot.com> writes
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>That is true - but again it has to be pointed out that loss of life as a
>>>result of gun ownership is, in general, dramatically higher in countries
>>>where the citizens have a right to bear arms.
>>
>> Just a minute, Uno (We haven't been introduced, but may I call you Uno?)
>>
>> What about Switzerland, Finland and for the sake of it Israel? I know
>> Israel is a special case but the civilians still carry round AK47s in
>> public, ready for use. I know of only one bad incident when an Israeli
>> shot many Muslims entering a mosque. He went berserk like H and D. These
>> three countries have firearms all over the place and they don't have any
>> trouble. What have they got that we haven't got?
>>
>>>You just cannot escape the
>>>logicality of that. If a man has a drunken dispute in a UK pub and is
>>>thrown
>>>out - he may well resort to flinging a brick through the window. But if he
>>>has a hand-gun in a drawer at home - is he likely to go and get that? You
>>>quite rightly take issue with the incidents in the UK where police have
>>>shot
>>>dead innocent people. If it was the right of everyone to own guns then UK
>>>police would be forced to become a fully armed force. The training
>>>standards
>>>would inevitably drop because you cannot afford the massive abstraction
>>>rate
>>>of sending every officer on regular monthly training sessions. So we would
>>>have a situation where every police officer was armed, less well trained,
>>>and every incident he went to he would have to be aware that there would
>>>be
>>>a possibility of firearms being involved. Now is that a recipe for more
>>>mistaken shootings - or isn't it? Be honest.
>>
>> Be honest, Uno. We didn't have any of that sort of trouble in the hundred
>> years before D & H, even when there was no firearms control at all.
>>
>> I personally know of one individual who didn't get a licence because of
>> his attitude at my club and one who lost his licence through carelessness
>> with a pistol in public.
>
>The problem is that we have two sub-threads going on here. The one where
>people want a return to a pre-Dunblane situation - and the other where the
>deranged want to arm the entire UK public. My comments on this post related
>to the latter viewpoint.
>
Perhaps you would like to quote a post where anyone has mentioned
arming the entire UK public apart from yourself?


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