England UK

On 25 Jul 2006 07:01:17 -0700, "The Gunboards at
http://www.britishseek.com" <nswamfm@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In Self Defence
>« Reply #8 on Today at 12:42am »
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>Yesterday at 10:20pm, fuzzywuzzy wrote:If you really believe that if
>you owned a gun that you would kill somebody with it. You probably made
>the right choice not to own one.
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>I have no intention of harming anybody. I also have no intention of
>being a victim.
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>That is the difference Fuzzy. You would kill and efm would not..If one
>has a gun to defend themselves the chances of you getting shot are much
>higher.
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>"There is considerable consensus that robbers armed with guns are LESS
>LIKELY to attack and injure, since faced by a gun, their [unarmed]
>victims are more compliant." (emphasis in original)
>- Excerpt from the British Home Office's submission to the Cullen
>Inquiry of the Dunblane Massacre....the accessibility of a firearm
>permits the instantaneous metamorphosis of a law-abiding person into a
>murderer. Is that what you want to be Fuzzywuzzy?

I know what you mean, those evil gun rays make me want to rape and
kill.



Thomas Hamilton had a history of severe mental illness and was
prohibited from owning a firearm. His licence was issued anyway,
because local law enforcement couldn't be bothered to do it's job. You
say the gun made him violent?

>As Efm says You carry a gun because you wish to kill or expect to kill
>someone one day

Not so. What you expect is to have the means of defending yourself.
It's not a panacea, only a fool would believe that, but it's better
than nothing.

>It is not advisable for anyone to "just go out and get a gun." Guns are
>often presented as the 'equalizer,' but actually guns provoke more
>unintentional injury, accidents and unnecessary deaths than random car
>accidents. Ten children a day are killed by handguns, and several
>studies show that the most likely use of a firearm in the home will be
>against a family member or an individual known to the gun owner. There
>is a lot of debate surrounding the use of firearms as an effective
>self-defense tool, with little data available to support their
>effectiveness.

Only if you ignore the evidence.


>Owning and operating a firearm should not be taken
>lightly, and if you are a person who is looking for a shortcut to
>self-protection, and are not sure about investing time in self-defense
>training, then gun ownership is certainly NOT THE ANSWER. There are no
>shortcuts to self-protection, and guns are not a risk-free solution

About this we agree, but helplessness is not the alternative I would
choose.
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> You should think whether YOU owning a Gun and using it against an
>intruder is more likely to cause harm to you and your family
>than if you had none.

According to a USDOJ study, armed victims are half as likely to be
injured in an attack.
Bill Smith